Episode 3

with Lesley Henry Kadish, October 16th 2020

Lesley is an anthropologist and museum professional. She is working as curator, specialized in accessibility and multi-sensory learning. She has experience with contents related to cultural heritage, mapping, and embodied perception.

For Lesley, in a museum, architecture plays an important role. During a visit, she pays attention to her entire body and then - anything can happen. She explains how each museum visit triggers various layers of our senses, and how experiences might be even richer with an impaired ability or when we become aware of our complex emotional states. Inviting a red Zinnia into the conversation, it becomes clear how a real shift cannot happen by ‘inclusion’ but rather by taking a different position, stepping closer to one another and re-centering ourselves. 

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A transcription of the podcast can be found also here. 

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Referenced during the conversation:

Baltimore Museum of Art - https://artbma.org

Kiasma, Helsinki Art Museum - https://kiasma.fi

proprioceptive (awareness of bodyposition and movement) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprioception

interoceptive (sense of the internal state of the body)  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interoception

Dumbarton Oaks Museum, Washington DC - https://www.doaks.org

Hirshhorn Art Museum https://hirshhorn.si.edu/hirshhorninsideout/

Cafe Regatta, Helsinki - http://caferegatta.fi

Igual diferente, Sao Paolo - https://mam.org.br/igual-diferente/

Death to museums: Series of Lectures, August 2020 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VYXnZvl27Y

Emmanuele Coccia - The Life of Plants: A Metaphysics of Mixture, https://www.wiley.com/en-be/The+Life+of+Plants%3A+A+Metaphysics+of+Mixture-p-9781509531523

Richard Powers, The Overstory - http://www.richardpowers.net/the-overstory/

W.H. Auden, Their Lonely Betters - http://www.thebeckoning.com/poetry/auden/auden4.html